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welcome to shattered reality with your

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hosts Kate Valentine and faroush

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prepare to have your paradigm shifted in

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the truths questioned and now shattered

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reality here we are at the 2017 Pine

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Bush UFO fair and we're all happy to be

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here right okay and I am here with Tiger

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reality podcast and my name is Purusha

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and over here is Miss Kate Valentine and

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about twice a month we present people

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who are in edge science basically we

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talk about UFOs we talk about near-death

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experiences and other cool things like

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remote viewing and all that good stuff

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so today I have a short presentation

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having to do with theories of

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extraterrestrial evolution all right now

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before before anybody gets all excited

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these are only theories but I will tell

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you that there are some very prominent

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people including Stephen Hawking and

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Ridley Scott who is the director of the

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alien series and several other excellent

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movies and both of those gentlemen too

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have much the same idea about the

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possibilities we're not saying this is

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definite or right so before anybody gets

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all excited and thinks that I'm making a

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pronouncement these are just theories

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okay extraterrestrial evolutions is a

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topic of great interest to me in a

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number of ways the thought may be

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bizarre to many people but perhaps it

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shouldn't be there are four factors that

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come immediately to mind first one there

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are probably billions of planets in our

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very own Milky Way galaxy and

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quadrillions quadrillions of other

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telescopically visible galaxies each

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with billions and billions of planets

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okay so that entire idea that we're the

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only ones in the universe or in the

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multiverse if there's actually more than

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one universe is really really very very

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unlikely scientists disagree on how many

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of the worlds might generate life but

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few scientists at this point in 2017

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really think that we're alone by

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scientists either I don't mean

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necessarily technicians I mean actual

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astronomers and cosmologists and so

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forth even the Vatican is very open to

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the concept of intelligent as

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extraterrestrial beings now that's the

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first point second point is some really

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great cosmological thinkers have posited

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the idea of panspermia I'm going to

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define that in a minute

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including dr. Chandra with a Roma singer

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and the late Sir Fred Hoyle panspermia

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is defined by Google

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of course we all go to Google for

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everything right but is defined by

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Google as the theory that life on Earth

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originated from micro organisms or

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chemical precursors of life present

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already in outer space from which we

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were able to initiate life here on earth

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when of interacting with a suitable

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environment okay today a scientist in

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main professor Milton Wainwright is

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sending up balloons to the stratosphere

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to discover microbial life from outer

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space now Milton Wainwright dr. Milton

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Wainwright dr. Milton Wainwright was on

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shattered reality podcast most recently

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about a week ago and he explained how he

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actually sent up these weather balloons

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about 40 kilometres up 25 miles and

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further and these weather balloons have

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attached to them basically cassette

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decks and they're encased in a something

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that nothing can get into and at the

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time they get they reached the proper

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altitude he is able to let that up

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cassette back out and on the tray of the

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cassette deck is something akin to a

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petri dish he explained it a little

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better than I can but the cassette that

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comes out and things stick to it

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organisms that perhaps come down from

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space stick to it at a certain point he

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pulls it back in again it hermetically

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reseals and he brings it down to earth

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the interesting thing is that he has

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found organisms that have never been

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seen here on earth that doesn't mean

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they don't exist here on earth it just

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they haven't been found yet on earth and

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these things are much too heavy to get

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up there on their own so this is this is

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the basis of research currently on paths

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permeable now third though it seems to

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me that much evidence points to the idea

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that Earth has been visited multiple

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times by possible extraterrestrials

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thoughts and theories about

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extraterrestrial evolution do not have

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depend for their validity on

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extraterrestrial visitation you get that

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everybody on the same page with me

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because that we don't have to have

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aliens walking around outside to believe

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that there are there are things in outer

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space that are evolving separate from us

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would such life follow a set pattern

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similar to life on Earth or would

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extraterrestrial evolution take an

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entirely different path or could both of

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have to define evolution yes look one

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thing that we know for all life on Earth

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is that it involves the direction the

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trajectory the vector that evolution

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is always a product of the conditions in

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which the evolution is taking place

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right but evolution the idea that things

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change over time look we know by the

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simple fact that we're here that a star

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died so that that iron could be created

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that it's the foundation of our blood we

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don't have to theorize about the

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evolution of stars we know what occurs

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so evolution is predominant on earth of

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all life forms and here's the point when

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evolution evolution seems to be

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primarily focused on a species surviving

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survival it really is the common trait

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of all life that we could see the one

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thing all light as a comet is it wants

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to survive there's no reason to think

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that survival isn't the primary driving

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force with all the way throughout the

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entire universe there's agreement there

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however we might want to know which is

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something that is a factor here is that

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90% of all life forms on the earth that

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ever existed on the earth are now

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extinct I think the percentage is higher

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than that sure absolutely okay so at

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least 90% we can say oh yeah um what I'm

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going to talk about mostly deals with

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the fourth factor Thank You mr. Denby

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any women on a deal with the fourth

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factor the open question of whether life

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would follow a particular trajectory or

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if it might be entirely different okay

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it has been rumored and openly stated

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that NASA and JPL the Jet Propulsion lab

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have quashed reports and evidence of

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life on Mars and other spheres in the

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universe that we have put Landers on

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assertions made by dr. John Brandenburg

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formerly of NASA about advanced life on

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Mars and of certain findings of

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primitive organisms called crinoids

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visually identical to earth organisms

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discovered by dr. richard hoover now dr.

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Richard Hoover is a was a 46 year

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veteran of NASA and an astrobiologist an

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years he was given the title of an

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so clearly this guy is no fool this is

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particularly important to the rest of my

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extraterrestrial evolution let me just

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close this okay and I brought this

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lovely picture for you to see of the

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crimes on Mars okay this is of

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a fossil now what NASA did with this

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fossil NASA in the form of JPL who sent

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the Explorer up to Mars

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and you remember it walks around it's

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still up there taking pictures and

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whatever they destroyed it

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they destroyed this fossil in order to

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do a chemical test on it so that all

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if the organism found by JPL on Mars it

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those found on earth it seems to point

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to the idea that extraterrestrial life

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might always are often involved in the

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same or similar manner

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follows in this direction is the

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controversial idea that some

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extraterrestrials who have reportedly

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visited the earth are reptilians now you

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know this is a matter of reports I

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personally have not seen any fresh

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filaments that does not mean that they

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don't exist but it is it that there you

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go something like this in any case if

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earth were not killed off by a comet or

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a large meteor or which struck the Gulf

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period would there perhaps have involved

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in to set subconscious bipedal beings

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who might roam the galaxy and if so is

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it not possible or indeed likely that on

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other suitable planets in the galaxy or

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beyond such reptilians might actually

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exist in fact evolution following a

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similar evolution following a similar

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model it might evolution not follow a

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simpler model everywhere in this

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discussion somewhere one must consider

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intelligent beings and their brains are

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not located in their heads like ours are

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they have a brain that is in their

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entire nervous system all over their

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bodies and they have been proven time

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such high size functioning okay that

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might derail the similar evolution

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Everywhere theory as the sole way that

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life would evolve on the other hand it

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is possible or likely that evolution

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through the cosmos looks nothing like

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earthly evolution I'd say certainly that

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it is possible and in certain

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circumstances probable that the

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what probable circumstance resulting in

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a different evolutionary pattern might

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be an environment where the building

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blocks of life are not carbon-based or

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not dependent on water or oxygen their

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life on Earth is carbon-based and

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requires water and we agree on that

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by and large okay but think about your

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definition of life think about each and

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every how do you define life yourselves

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perhaps consciousness is a better

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definition of life than taking breath or

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what is or could be unconscious is a

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very very long discussion you know it's

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this Sun ukuleles stand conscious most

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of us wouldn't think of it as conscious

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but if we were atomists we would think

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suffice it to say that monsters plunk

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and the other founders of quantum

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physics all thought that consciousness

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energy in the physical universe got to

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think about that for a minute or two but

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are these ideas of evolution and the

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cosmos neutral in its solution ponder

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this perhaps life develops in a similar

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evolutionary pattern where carbon and

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water are available and totally

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differently where they are not I am NOT

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stating Lee I'm not stating conclusively

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that this is the case but certainly it

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provides food if not a feast for thought

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so just in closing here this is

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something I think that the next up group

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is coming in but in closing I just want

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to show some artists renditions what

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what might the aliens look like first of

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all we have this picture somebody

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painted of the destruction of the

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dinosaurs and you can see that comets

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coming in or the the meteors coming in

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on the core dinosaurs and here I have

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two pictures so this is what somebody

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apparently said that they saw involving

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a an alien of reptilians sort and here's

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another one this is we could kind of see

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him on top of the other guy there now

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here we have a tall blond or Nordic type

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alien which is actually the only kind

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I've ever seen and I don't even know

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that

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this was a physical presence could have

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been a non-physical presence here we

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have a insectoid now in my opinion

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insectoids could be what's coming next

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because shortly when all the people pass

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away and the large mammals go

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who's going to come up next on the earth

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the insects and will the insects be

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intelligent well we look at some of the

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insects now that are somewhat

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intelligent right bees and ants and

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other these are mantis kind of insects

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yes one could easily make not an

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argument but a statement that insects

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are actually much more successful

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species and it is I almost every metric

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that's right I mean in terms of they've

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been here much longer than we have their

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biomass people the humans on earth with

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the most guilty well the insects on

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earth put them on the scale I think you

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find that they're probably at least ten

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times more biomass of insects then you

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certainly in terms of ants ants alone

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it's two to one I believe is the biomass

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of ratio so you know it really depends

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on your definition of what successful is

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but I have to bring it back to this

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issue of the definition of evolution I

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think you're I understand what your

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ideas are moving towards but I think you

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have to in order to make the same

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approach and argument you have to get to

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the point where you detach the notion of

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evolution as we have seen it with life

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on Earth

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it's a separate issue than the idea of

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what evolution is and again I want to

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bring it back to this if we assume for a

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moment that what is true the whole life

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is an instinct for survival the

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potential of success for that survive

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that is the task of evolution evolution

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basically is pushing us towards that

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survival by an fx

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removing the elements of the species

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that will contribute to its down that

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will basically not contribute to its

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propagation that's really what evolution

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evolution is how do we keep hope how

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does nature including the life form so

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it is potentially more successful at

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survival that's a biological life-form

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no one no it's not I'm talking about all

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life and this is this is the important

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point I'm not pleased about biology I'm

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saying that survival is intrinsic all

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right no matter what that life form is

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not just if everything has consciousness

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and the consciousness doesn't die then

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it's more problems generalizations we

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still the best scientists earth today

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has no clue of what consciousness is

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that's right so it's hard to create

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boundaries around something or

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containers around something that we have

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and again I think it's important to

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point this out zero comprehension of

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zero not 1% not a half a percent zero it

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is perhaps the greatest mystery facing

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humans it's the hard problem of

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consciousness and philosophy is what

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you're speaking of yeah and it does

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exist but if it does it does imply that

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we're more than our physical bodies and

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that a star couldn't be conscious

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not only do I not disagree with that I

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think that that actually is the route

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that stories to lead us to earth getting

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real answers I think that the problem

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with humans is that were far too you

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know yeah I agree I do think that we're

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far too focused on humans

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the detriment of other sentient

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consciousness so just as a final thing a

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lot of people purport to see greys and

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so I brought a little picture of greys

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just for your entertainment so that

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concludes the first part of my lecture

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